Join co-hosts Rusty and Lacie Ham in this engaging episode of 'Catching You' where they welcome Cheri Naudin, co-owner of Collegiate Sports Advocate. Cheri shares her rich background in softball, influenced by her father's dedication and her childhood in Orange County. The conversation explores her transition from corporate recruiting to sports recruitment and delves into her heartfelt experiences coaching her daughters and elite youth teams.
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[00:00:00] And then I had my youngest one, Cheri. Terrific athlete, a little bit of the rebel in the family. She's now a NIL Title IX litigation attorney. But she ended up playing with the Romeros, the Knightners, the Cruz Sisters, a whole bundle of them. But I always stayed in 10 and under. I loved it. I just loved the authenticity, the genuineness.
[00:00:23] I had another parent where I was a little bit more crazy and tense and older, but I ended up doing 10 and under for 15 years. I cut myself off of the game. About ready to choke a family. My son goes, get out of the dugout. He had to check me, right?
[00:00:38] Right.
[00:00:39] If my ladies needed like 10 and under coach with the most famous players ever.
[00:00:43] Hello and welcome to Catching You, a Dad and Daughters Softball Journey. I'm Rusty, a dad who's been in the dugout and on the sidelines.
[00:00:51] And I'm Lacey, the daughter whose journey through softball has been filled with incredible wins, tough losses, and so many lessons both on and off the field.
[00:00:59] For the past 16 years, we've navigated the highs and lows of softball together. From the local fields to national tournaments and everything in between.
[00:01:07] From the challenges of recruitment during COVID to the mental and emotional rollercoaster that comes with being a student athlete.
[00:01:13] We will be sharing the perspectives of both the parent and athlete and firsthand experience of the impact of sports on mental health and the importance of support from the sidelines.
[00:01:23] Welcome back everybody to Catching You, your co-host. Rusty Hamm with me is my beautiful other co-host, Lacey Hamm.
[00:01:34] Hi, Lacey.
[00:01:36] Hello.
[00:01:39] We have a special guest with us today. Sherry, is it Nadine? Did I say it?
[00:01:45] Yes, you did it right.
[00:01:47] She is right now, you are the owner or co-owner of Collegiate Sports Advocate.
[00:01:54] We wanted to get you on here because we've been talking to some travel bowl coaches lately and talking about the recruiting process.
[00:02:03] So we wanted to get you on and get your thoughts on it. But first, before we get into that, let's get some background of you, where you grew up, maybe your relationship with your father, since this is a father-daughter podcast.
[00:02:17] And then we can get into the meat and potatoes of the recruiting process.
[00:02:22] And my father is Tats, so this is nice for me to be able to talk about him. But he was a football player. He played football for the University of Arizona in the 60s.
[00:02:31] And literally the typewritten roster. It's just awesome. This is the old school type of thing that ended up having all three of us while he was in college. I have two older sisters.
[00:02:42] And then moved to California because it was like the place to get a job and to raise a family. And he had a grandmother that lived near Knott's Berry Farm. We were very familiar with Orange County and we grew up there and we played softball.
[00:02:56] My dad played men's fat pitch in the 70s. I coach Chad. And we would all go watch and it was a big old mushy ball. And boy, they could really hurl it. Yeah, the pitching was amazing.
[00:03:09] And I played Little Miss softball and West Garden Grove softball and with some famous girls that carried on. And many of us are still friends. I was a little tiny catcher.
[00:03:19] I went to Pacifica High School, but I did not play softball in high school. It was just a different time. I was a cheerleader. Nobody's surprised by that.
[00:03:29] I was a cheerleader and kind of my natural personality to be cheering on everything and just to have friends and make relationships.
[00:03:38] And that's some of the foundation of how I started dance was my dad said, you're not an athlete unless you run track and field.
[00:03:44] Or we did AAU track and field. They just were raised around being appries and shared gloves and shared cleats because that was just what you did.
[00:03:54] And a bat was those metal aluminum bats you got from a batting cage and it went clink. There was no home runs. There was no much thing.
[00:04:01] Well, I just had a love for the game back then and played women's 11 inch for several years into my 40.
[00:04:07] Just swift rec team states of three, but they called your A, B or C leagues and had a great time and played with some USA people.
[00:04:15] And I just went out there to have a good time really, but raised my own children in the sports.
[00:04:21] Very cool. Now your relationship with your father was a, I don't know how deep you want to get.
[00:04:27] It was hard to be the word. I mean, let's get out.
[00:04:32] Yeah.
[00:04:33] If you don't like it, go take a lap around the freeway.
[00:04:37] Yeah. I remember one time making fun of a kid, mocking the way she was throwing on my dad to take a lap.
[00:04:43] And I'm like, what?
[00:04:44] He was not going to have any ill behavior.
[00:04:47] I was 12. Maybe take a lap in my catcher's deer around the West Garden Grove field.
[00:04:51] It was a little rough, but yeah, he was definitely a disciplinary and respect to the game and felt that it was a game of discipline.
[00:05:00] He was our coach for several years.
[00:05:02] My mom too. My mom played women.
[00:05:05] My mom actually played on a sponsored team out of Bisbee, Arizona.
[00:05:08] That was a minor league team for the Cubs.
[00:05:11] And they had a little wooden bat. They were baseballs basically in the little skirts and a cute picture with a little eye, the little cat eyeglasses.
[00:05:20] And it's a long line of love for the game. That's for sure.
[00:05:24] Very cool. You mentioned Garden Grove, one of Lacey's coaches.
[00:05:28] He went there, right? You guys were schoolmates, right?
[00:05:31] And then being the head coach there.
[00:05:34] Yeah, Mark Campbell.
[00:05:36] Do you have any stories of Mark Campbell back in the day?
[00:05:39] Yeah, I actually remember him more as a football player because he was a cheerleader.
[00:05:43] And they actually went to CIF.
[00:05:45] And we got to cheer at their Anaheim Stadium back in the day, it was called.
[00:05:50] And he hung with one of my brother-in-laws.
[00:05:53] And it was a big class. He was taught to 79. I was 81.
[00:05:56] And that age was us.
[00:05:57] But Mark was always, I would say, very focused and in front and very serious about what he did.
[00:06:03] And we married a fellow cheerleader, Kayla Campbell, heard with her name.
[00:06:07] And we also played little rec ball, as you called it back then, either Little Miss or West Harding Grove.
[00:06:14] Bobby Sox.
[00:06:15] But we all grew up playing the game.
[00:06:17] I think I joke because Rob Weil also went to high school with us.
[00:06:21] And I joke, were we drinking softballs in our water or something?
[00:06:25] That school was just legendary for softball.
[00:06:30] Yeah, that's the way she's playing around for a while.
[00:06:32] Go Elish.
[00:06:33] I think I started practicing there around like 10 years old.
[00:06:37] I think 10 or 11.
[00:06:39] And we would make the drive every single weekend to Pacifica.
[00:06:43] And sometimes we'd be on the JV field.
[00:06:46] Sometimes we'd be on the varsity field.
[00:06:48] We all want to be on the varsity field.
[00:06:50] And then obviously the track.
[00:06:52] There's a lot of memories on that track.
[00:06:55] Next to the softball field.
[00:06:56] Yeah.
[00:06:57] A lot of memories there for sure.
[00:06:59] Yeah.
[00:07:00] Did your incident, Lace, happen on the JV field?
[00:07:03] Yes.
[00:07:03] I'm thinking of her.
[00:07:04] Okay.
[00:07:04] I don't know if Sherry, she had a line drive back to the head.
[00:07:08] She was on Mark Campbell's team.
[00:07:09] And she had a line drive practice.
[00:07:11] Cracked her head wide open.
[00:07:13] Not wide open.
[00:07:14] But she got to screw her up a little bit.
[00:07:17] So she was out for a while.
[00:07:19] But very cool.
[00:07:20] Yeah.
[00:07:20] You being a cheerleader is funny.
[00:07:21] Lace, what did we used to do when a cheerleader or a group of cheerleaders would?
[00:07:26] What did we used to do?
[00:07:28] You don't remember?
[00:07:29] It was mostly what you would say, Dad.
[00:07:32] It was like, if you ever become a cheerleader, we're going to kick you out of the house.
[00:07:37] I told my youngest daughter, cheerleaders are not athletes.
[00:07:41] After my experience.
[00:07:42] But they really are.
[00:07:43] It's a different kind of athleticism.
[00:07:45] And it's so much more intense now than it was in our day.
[00:07:49] Yeah.
[00:07:50] I'd always go behind her and put my hands around her eyes.
[00:07:52] So they would be interested.
[00:07:54] And then the name Lacey comes from?
[00:07:58] A cheerleader.
[00:07:59] Yeah.
[00:07:59] I used to be a head basketball coach in Brea, actually.
[00:08:02] We were neighbors there for a while.
[00:08:04] And one of the cheerleaders was named Lacey.
[00:08:06] And I'm like, yeah, that's a great name for all my kids.
[00:08:08] And we ended up late neighbor or that.
[00:08:10] Very cool.
[00:08:10] Sherry.
[00:08:11] So let's dive into, I know from your bio, you were a recruiter in the corporate world
[00:08:17] for a while, a long time.
[00:08:19] What kind of described your, you're getting into recruiting for the softball side?
[00:08:25] Or how did you get into the softball realm and then the recruiting part?
[00:08:30] Yeah, no kidding.
[00:08:31] I spent 28 years in telecom and sales and marketing and had my own recruiting company.
[00:08:37] And until 9-11, I was actually working out of the house, raising my kids, doing headhunting,
[00:08:43] really, for corporate executives.
[00:08:45] And that was amazing.
[00:08:46] But 9-11 kind of took down a lot of business.
[00:08:49] And back then, my kids were just, they were young, just getting into softball.
[00:08:53] I have a son, Nick.
[00:08:54] He's actually my partner.
[00:08:55] So we should do a daughter-son podcast.
[00:08:58] That would be cool.
[00:08:59] But like the Nolan Aranato.
[00:09:02] You just didn't know how talented your kids were.
[00:09:04] You just formed teams with kids that could play.
[00:09:07] And we were in the early days of travel ball.
[00:09:09] And so they had the Lost Flores Giants.
[00:09:12] They've gone on to do great things.
[00:09:13] But our son just didn't have an aspiration for the next follower.
[00:09:17] It was a joke.
[00:09:18] We were on a, I didn't put this in my bio, but we were on a, whatever they call it, the
[00:09:24] TV show that was called Trading Spouses.
[00:09:26] And it was a bounce softball.
[00:09:29] It's the funniest thing ever because there was Lauren Chamberlain and that whole team that
[00:09:33] had won 10 and under nationals was on this TV show.
[00:09:36] People don't even remember it.
[00:09:37] They, they make fun of it and really produce it.
[00:09:41] But it was funny now when you look back, but it was traumatic back then.
[00:09:45] But it was not something that people understood that it was not produced.
[00:09:49] They were like, oh, that's who will work.
[00:09:51] But then my daughter, Shannon grew up playing her first rec ball team.
[00:09:55] She came running over and had, she had this new friend and she couldn't say the word Lauren.
[00:09:59] She called her Warren.
[00:10:00] To Shannon, nobody named their kid Warren.
[00:10:03] Who was your new friend?
[00:10:04] And she said, Lauren, the little girl says, Lauren, it was Lauren's favorite one.
[00:10:08] And so her and Lauren were in ranch.
[00:10:10] She beat her girl pop all together.
[00:10:12] And all of a sudden we had dissolved our team.
[00:10:14] And then I met Brett Danio and he had all these relationships with Custin's pop ball.
[00:10:18] And there was like Emmy Kerner, Hallie Wilson, Lauren Chamberlain.
[00:10:22] Allison played at San Jose lately.
[00:10:25] And a great pitcher.
[00:10:27] She was at Fountain Valley High.
[00:10:28] And we just had this little 10 and under team that just was amazing.
[00:10:32] But travel ball or finding things to compete in 2003 were not a very big thing.
[00:10:37] So we went back to ref ball and then formed a team.
[00:10:40] They won national.
[00:10:41] They were amazing.
[00:10:43] And then I had my youngest one, Shelly.
[00:10:47] Terrific athlete.
[00:10:48] A little bit of the rebel in the family.
[00:10:49] She's now a NIL Title IX litigation attorney.
[00:10:54] But she ended up playing with the Romeros, the Knightons, the Cruden sisters, a whole bundle of them.
[00:11:00] But I always stayed in 10 and under.
[00:11:02] I loved my mom.
[00:11:03] I just loved the authenticity, the genuineness.
[00:11:07] I had another parent for hours a little bit more crazy and tense than older.
[00:11:12] But I ended up doing 10 and under for 15 years.
[00:11:14] And I cooked myself off of the king because I was about ready to choke a family.
[00:11:18] My son goes, get out of the dugout.
[00:11:20] He had to check me, right?
[00:11:22] My legacy is like 10 and under coach with the most famous players ever.
[00:11:27] But I don't ever take credit for them.
[00:11:29] But I had a nice compliment from Melissa Romero when Sierra got NCAA Player of the Year at Michigan.
[00:11:35] She wrote this nice Facebook and started off by thanking Sherry Naudine.
[00:11:40] I'm like, what?
[00:11:41] That's 10 and under a cold.
[00:11:42] And she said, Sherry, you taught her to love the game.
[00:11:45] And then she went on to play for Mark because she was age-wise between my two daughters.
[00:11:50] So she needed to move up and move on.
[00:11:53] Went to play for Mark and there was your history.
[00:11:56] So Arianna's one ended up playing college soccer instead.
[00:11:59] She played at Central Arkansas and I went on to Baylor Law School.
[00:12:02] So the reason I say that is that's what got me into recruiting is understanding each child had their own path, their own academics.
[00:12:10] Shannon, the middle one, ended up playing in Kansas, pretty from Mexico.
[00:12:14] She was a grad assistant.
[00:12:15] And you just watch this all happen.
[00:12:17] And when we moved to Texas in our seven, we got laid off.
[00:12:21] I was laid out of telecom.
[00:12:23] And I started doing flapper training and catcher training.
[00:12:26] And I, too, had coached Jen Schroeder's younger sister.
[00:12:29] So there, all of a sudden, she was doing this petra thing.
[00:12:32] And she came to Dallas.
[00:12:34] And the moral of the story is relationships matter.
[00:12:37] And connecting with people that love the game the same way and everybody giving what they can give to the sport.
[00:12:44] Everybody needs all hands on deck.
[00:12:46] It's not just your travel coach or just your pitching coach.
[00:12:50] It's not just your dad or your mom.
[00:12:52] It's always, and this is what I think has helped my strategy,
[00:12:55] to do work tests for the individual student athlete, always.
[00:13:00] Then the team wins.
[00:13:02] The brand wins.
[00:13:03] The parents win.
[00:13:04] Everybody wins.
[00:13:04] If we focus on what's in the best interest of that student athlete.
[00:13:09] And that's why I created an individual mop
[00:13:12] to help them through their path.
[00:13:14] Because the kind of phone calls you get
[00:13:16] can't equate to Lacey or Coach Ham's experience.
[00:13:21] It's what's unique for them.
[00:13:22] And now I'm almost 1,200 student athlete.
[00:13:26] I'm 621.
[00:13:27] And so now I have the relationship to say,
[00:13:30] when I do a visit prep,
[00:13:31] I did one yesterday for a young lady.
[00:13:33] I visit on Thursday.
[00:13:36] As I said, here's what I've learned in the past.
[00:13:37] And here's what you should think about.
[00:13:39] But if you go over here or you go over here,
[00:13:42] this is what the effects of being in the past.
[00:13:44] So I'm not telling them what to do.
[00:13:47] I'm not telling them where to commit.
[00:13:48] I've actually created a decision for it at the end.
[00:13:51] And I make them rank it and grade it.
[00:13:54] And now with the portal and Juco,
[00:13:58] there's so many more variables.
[00:14:00] I really have to be conscientious about their why
[00:14:03] and what their purpose is
[00:14:05] and what they're really trying to get out of it.
[00:14:08] I don't even focus on college degree,
[00:14:11] their major.
[00:14:12] Because I always say to you, Russ,
[00:14:15] what did you want to be when you were 16?
[00:14:16] Right?
[00:14:17] It's never what...
[00:14:19] Yeah, see.
[00:14:20] And did you become a fireman?
[00:14:22] Okay.
[00:14:23] So this'll age me again.
[00:14:25] I would say I wanted to be Pat Benatar.
[00:14:28] I can't sing.
[00:14:30] I'm sure I love rock and roll,
[00:14:31] but I can't sing.
[00:14:32] And that's just the maturity level
[00:14:34] of a 16-year-old, right?
[00:14:36] So Lace, you didn't know.
[00:14:37] I've never told you this,
[00:14:38] but I did.
[00:14:39] I had a poster of Pat Benatar
[00:14:41] in my room at one point.
[00:14:43] She was a rocker.
[00:14:44] She was one of the original female rockers,
[00:14:47] you know.
[00:14:50] She was a rocker.
[00:14:51] We're going to dive deep
[00:14:51] into each of those categories
[00:14:53] that you talked about.
[00:14:54] But Lace,
[00:14:55] your 10U experience
[00:14:57] was probably,
[00:14:59] you know,
[00:14:59] your 10,
[00:15:00] because her 10U
[00:15:01] and her 12U
[00:15:02] were the same coach.
[00:15:03] So I don't know
[00:15:04] if you want to dive
[00:15:05] into the 10U,
[00:15:06] your experience
[00:15:07] and what your thoughts are
[00:15:09] in that.
[00:15:09] So 10U,
[00:15:11] my first travel,
[00:15:13] like that's when I went
[00:15:15] straight into travel ball
[00:15:16] was after
[00:15:17] 8U All-Stars,
[00:15:19] which that coach
[00:15:20] became my 10U coach
[00:15:22] for Team Mizuno
[00:15:23] in 10U.
[00:15:25] And then
[00:15:25] the next year of 10U,
[00:15:27] we became Bat Busters.
[00:15:29] So that's when
[00:15:30] the merge happened.
[00:15:32] And then
[00:15:32] we didn't do so well
[00:15:34] like Team Mizuno-wise,
[00:15:35] I don't think.
[00:15:36] First year,
[00:15:37] wasn't it?
[00:15:38] First year 10s.
[00:15:39] We were just like
[00:15:39] getting all the girls together.
[00:15:41] And then second year 10s
[00:15:43] was very serious.
[00:15:44] I think a lot of girls
[00:15:45] came back from the first year
[00:15:47] and then we added
[00:15:47] some really good players.
[00:15:49] And that's when
[00:15:50] we went to Tennessee
[00:15:51] where ASA Nationals
[00:15:53] and we came
[00:15:55] up in second
[00:15:57] against Tennessee Mojo
[00:15:59] in the last
[00:16:00] the championship series.
[00:16:02] That was my first taste
[00:16:04] of like competitive
[00:16:06] travel ball
[00:16:07] and rivalries.
[00:16:09] So we were
[00:16:10] We got some of those too.
[00:16:12] We were rivals
[00:16:13] with Impact Gold.
[00:16:19] Tennessee Mojo, of course.
[00:16:21] Yeah, just a few other teams too.
[00:16:23] People just don't like
[00:16:24] the Batbusters in general
[00:16:25] for sure.
[00:16:28] And then we went
[00:16:29] into 12U
[00:16:30] and 12U
[00:16:32] was when we really
[00:16:32] grew as a team
[00:16:33] is when we went to
[00:16:35] USAA Nationals
[00:16:36] in Kansas City
[00:16:38] and we won
[00:16:39] that tournament
[00:16:40] which was really fun.
[00:16:41] It was like on TV
[00:16:42] and everything
[00:16:43] and yeah,
[00:16:44] then the team broke off
[00:16:46] because then Mark
[00:16:47] was like,
[00:16:47] I want you
[00:16:47] and I want you.
[00:16:48] So that was my 10U
[00:16:50] and 12U experience
[00:16:51] but
[00:16:53] some of those girls
[00:16:54] were the ones
[00:16:54] that I ended up
[00:16:55] playing for
[00:16:57] in 18U
[00:16:58] on that championship team
[00:17:00] which was
[00:17:01] surreal
[00:17:01] in a way
[00:17:02] and then
[00:17:02] yeah,
[00:17:03] that really just
[00:17:04] kickstarted my
[00:17:05] softball career
[00:17:06] really.
[00:17:09] Let's take a quick break.
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[00:17:40] Yeah,
[00:17:41] and her 10-year,
[00:17:42] 12-year coach
[00:17:42] set the tone,
[00:17:43] right?
[00:17:44] He was
[00:17:45] a gentle,
[00:17:46] he was a smaller guy
[00:17:48] but he was,
[00:17:49] he tried to have
[00:17:50] the persona
[00:17:50] of Mike Stiff,
[00:17:51] yell or spammer,
[00:17:53] discipline,
[00:17:53] you run,
[00:17:54] if you make a mistake
[00:17:55] but then he was
[00:17:56] also very gentle
[00:17:57] and very kind.
[00:17:58] I think he's had
[00:17:59] a good experience
[00:17:59] on that.
[00:18:00] Sherry,
[00:18:01] let's jump to,
[00:18:02] because Lacey
[00:18:02] didn't have an advocate
[00:18:03] for a long time.
[00:18:05] So talk about
[00:18:06] the recruiting
[00:18:09] with girls now
[00:18:11] because the recruiting
[00:18:11] obviously is different
[00:18:12] from post-COVID
[00:18:14] rather than
[00:18:14] now everything
[00:18:15] has changed.
[00:18:16] With recruiting,
[00:18:19] do you have
[00:18:20] a laundry list
[00:18:20] of what they
[00:18:21] should be
[00:18:23] doing prior
[00:18:24] to eighth grade?
[00:18:25] Or ninth grade?
[00:18:27] How soon do you
[00:18:27] get them?
[00:18:29] Depends on their
[00:18:29] talent level,
[00:18:30] right?
[00:18:31] We've all seen
[00:18:31] that top level kid
[00:18:32] in 10s and 12s.
[00:18:34] You can see them.
[00:18:34] I knew the Romeros
[00:18:35] and the Knightens
[00:18:36] the minute I met them.
[00:18:37] Just that elite
[00:18:38] talent level
[00:18:38] that's just
[00:18:39] God-given
[00:18:40] and inherent
[00:18:41] in their family
[00:18:43] culture too.
[00:18:44] So I always look
[00:18:44] for a good kid,
[00:18:45] good grade,
[00:18:46] good family,
[00:18:46] good team
[00:18:47] and people
[00:18:48] that were dedicated
[00:18:49] to the sport
[00:18:49] because that's
[00:18:50] what it takes.
[00:18:50] It's a family
[00:18:51] commitment.
[00:18:52] And so I'll
[00:18:53] typically take
[00:18:54] eighth graders
[00:18:54] if they're on
[00:18:55] top level
[00:18:55] ping and they
[00:18:56] meet that
[00:18:57] kind of criteria.
[00:18:58] And I always
[00:18:58] ask where
[00:18:59] are they going?
[00:19:00] Because my
[00:19:01] program is
[00:19:01] very structured
[00:19:02] because I
[00:19:03] feel if you
[00:19:04] have a system
[00:19:04] that's sticky
[00:19:05] and it has
[00:19:06] comforted
[00:19:06] to develop
[00:19:07] them up,
[00:19:08] then they're
[00:19:09] going to get
[00:19:09] recruited if
[00:19:10] they're doing
[00:19:10] the right
[00:19:10] things.
[00:19:11] And it's
[00:19:12] time management.
[00:19:13] I teach them
[00:19:14] a time management
[00:19:14] course I
[00:19:15] created myself
[00:19:16] called 168
[00:19:17] hours in the
[00:19:18] week and what
[00:19:19] are you doing
[00:19:19] with it and
[00:19:20] what are your
[00:19:20] priorities?
[00:19:21] And then that
[00:19:22] helps them
[00:19:22] understand that
[00:19:23] there's commitment
[00:19:24] to it and how
[00:19:24] much time you're
[00:19:25] spending on
[00:19:25] Netflix or
[00:19:26] TikTok and
[00:19:27] where's your
[00:19:27] priorities?
[00:19:28] And the kids
[00:19:29] that are dedicated
[00:19:30] that engage in
[00:19:32] it, they love
[00:19:32] it.
[00:19:33] It's not the
[00:19:33] burnout.
[00:19:34] They're not
[00:19:34] feeling stressed
[00:19:35] or pulled
[00:19:36] through it
[00:19:36] because they
[00:19:37] really genuinely
[00:19:38] love it and
[00:19:39] it's worth a
[00:19:39] family.
[00:19:40] So I'll take
[00:19:41] eighth graders
[00:19:41] but definitely
[00:19:42] man the
[00:19:43] ninth graders
[00:19:43] got it getting
[00:19:44] ever since
[00:19:45] 22 when they
[00:19:46] changed it to
[00:19:47] not recruiting
[00:19:47] some of the
[00:19:48] eighth graders
[00:19:48] you still
[00:19:49] have to get
[00:19:50] an evaluation
[00:19:51] and that's a
[00:19:52] misunderstanding to
[00:19:53] the general
[00:19:54] population is
[00:19:55] oh recruiting
[00:19:55] doesn't start
[00:19:56] until their
[00:19:56] junior year.
[00:19:57] No that's
[00:19:58] when the
[00:19:58] decisions are
[00:19:59] being made
[00:20:00] and they
[00:20:01] spent two
[00:20:02] years recruiting
[00:20:03] you.
[00:20:04] 12 days,
[00:20:06] six weekends
[00:20:06] in fall and
[00:20:07] it used to be
[00:20:08] eight weekends
[00:20:08] they just took
[00:20:09] a week off
[00:20:10] now, now
[00:20:10] it's seven
[00:20:11] weeks in
[00:20:12] summer and
[00:20:13] it's so
[00:20:13] compacted I
[00:20:14] feel stressed
[00:20:15] even talking
[00:20:16] about it because
[00:20:17] you have to
[00:20:17] get over
[00:20:19] 475,000
[00:20:20] registered soccer
[00:20:21] players into
[00:20:23] 8,000
[00:20:25] opportunities and
[00:20:26] the math is
[00:20:27] just if I doubt
[00:20:28] it's .07
[00:20:28] it is not
[00:20:30] and I heard
[00:20:31] some pros say
[00:20:32] this last
[00:20:32] weekend at a
[00:20:33] camp that
[00:20:34] oh it's for
[00:20:35] everybody and
[00:20:35] you can't find
[00:20:36] your spot I
[00:20:36] just can't
[00:20:37] say that anymore
[00:20:38] it just because
[00:20:39] you want to
[00:20:40] play doesn't
[00:20:40] mean you get
[00:20:41] to play or
[00:20:41] that you can
[00:20:42] play where
[00:20:43] you want to
[00:20:43] play and
[00:20:45] the biggest
[00:20:45] message I
[00:20:46] think parents
[00:20:46] miss is that
[00:20:47] the college
[00:20:48] coaches pick
[00:20:49] them I
[00:20:50] have even
[00:20:51] clients even
[00:20:52] though I
[00:20:52] tell them
[00:20:52] that they
[00:20:53] only want to
[00:20:54] go to the
[00:20:54] foreign stores
[00:20:54] and we want
[00:20:55] to go to a
[00:20:55] big school
[00:20:56] or small
[00:20:56] school and
[00:20:56] only this
[00:20:57] major when
[00:20:58] even their
[00:20:58] test scores
[00:20:59] don't even
[00:20:59] equate to
[00:21:00] that kind
[00:21:00] of major
[00:21:01] and you
[00:21:01] try to
[00:21:01] help them
[00:21:02] along with
[00:21:02] no we're
[00:21:03] not putting
[00:21:03] on their
[00:21:03] dreams
[00:21:04] I used
[00:21:05] this analogy
[00:21:05] the other day
[00:21:06] that I think
[00:21:07] too many
[00:21:07] parents are
[00:21:08] putting the
[00:21:08] tiara on
[00:21:09] their head
[00:21:09] and the
[00:21:10] little
[00:21:10] Disneyland
[00:21:10] dress and
[00:21:11] they're taking
[00:21:12] them to the
[00:21:12] grand and
[00:21:13] they're just
[00:21:14] going to
[00:21:14] maneuver and
[00:21:15] manipulate until
[00:21:16] it comes out
[00:21:16] their way
[00:21:17] when they
[00:21:18] don't realize
[00:21:18] that the
[00:21:19] college children
[00:21:20] have to
[00:21:20] get in
[00:21:21] and until
[00:21:22] they understand
[00:21:23] that and
[00:21:24] then they get
[00:21:25] choices they
[00:21:26] don't understand
[00:21:27] the process and
[00:21:28] I think sadly
[00:21:29] many will
[00:21:30] quit in sport
[00:21:31] before they
[00:21:31] actually get
[00:21:32] recruited because
[00:21:33] it didn't turn
[00:21:33] out like mom
[00:21:34] and dad said
[00:21:34] where you buy
[00:21:35] your ticket at
[00:21:36] grand and
[00:21:36] you show up
[00:21:37] in your
[00:21:37] dress and
[00:21:38] your tiara
[00:21:38] and everything
[00:21:39] just comes out
[00:21:39] perfect and
[00:21:40] I think the
[00:21:41] reality is
[00:21:42] big girl
[00:21:43] reality and
[00:21:44] back to the
[00:21:45] pull up your
[00:21:45] big girl pants
[00:21:46] and here we
[00:21:47] go because
[00:21:48] it's not what
[00:21:49] you thought it
[00:21:50] was going to
[00:21:50] be and
[00:21:51] lately I could
[00:21:51] probably turn the
[00:21:52] mic on you
[00:21:53] now it's not
[00:21:54] as easy as
[00:21:54] everybody dreamed
[00:21:55] it to be
[00:21:55] correct no
[00:21:57] are you talking
[00:21:58] about recruiting
[00:21:58] or college
[00:21:59] like college
[00:21:59] not playing
[00:22:00] in college
[00:22:01] oh yeah
[00:22:02] I'm exhausted
[00:22:04] yes
[00:22:04] yes
[00:22:06] yeah
[00:22:06] and I would
[00:22:07] say the
[00:22:07] recruiting too
[00:22:08] it's a very
[00:22:09] tedious
[00:22:10] time-consuming
[00:22:12] process and
[00:22:12] what I try to
[00:22:13] do is help
[00:22:14] them understand
[00:22:14] where their
[00:22:15] talent level
[00:22:15] fits and
[00:22:17] what type of
[00:22:18] exposure they
[00:22:18] could get
[00:22:19] I love Tim
[00:22:19] Walton so I
[00:22:20] always say
[00:22:21] if Tim Walton
[00:22:22] got standing
[00:22:22] at your
[00:22:22] sideline you're
[00:22:23] not going to
[00:22:24] get recruited
[00:22:24] at Florida
[00:22:26] you can get
[00:22:27] on a plane
[00:22:27] you can go
[00:22:28] to camp with
[00:22:28] 100 or 200
[00:22:29] kids eight
[00:22:30] times a year
[00:22:30] and it's
[00:22:32] just I haven't
[00:22:33] seen it happen
[00:22:33] yet and
[00:22:34] 1200 kids
[00:22:35] where you
[00:22:35] pick the
[00:22:36] school of
[00:22:36] your choice
[00:22:37] and you
[00:22:37] get on a
[00:22:37] plane you
[00:22:38] go to the
[00:22:38] camp and
[00:22:39] boom you're
[00:22:39] recruited there's
[00:22:41] just so much
[00:22:41] more to the
[00:22:42] system and
[00:22:43] to the sport
[00:22:43] and to the
[00:22:44] business behind
[00:22:45] it whether
[00:22:46] that's fair or
[00:22:46] not especially
[00:22:47] to the people
[00:22:48] that don't have
[00:22:48] a lot of
[00:22:49] money but
[00:22:50] then why
[00:22:50] are you going
[00:22:51] to the
[00:22:51] camps only
[00:22:52] trying to
[00:22:52] get recruited
[00:22:53] to the
[00:22:54] 1,750
[00:22:55] press school
[00:22:57] you can't
[00:22:57] possibly pick
[00:22:59] and choose
[00:22:59] and yet you'll
[00:23:00] see social
[00:23:00] media come
[00:23:01] at me for
[00:23:01] that they
[00:23:02] all you know
[00:23:02] I did
[00:23:03] went to a
[00:23:03] camp and she
[00:23:04] got recruited
[00:23:04] good for you
[00:23:05] I'm happy but
[00:23:06] that's just
[00:23:07] like luck of the
[00:23:09] drum more so
[00:23:10] than an actual
[00:23:11] strategy
[00:23:11] yeah what I've
[00:23:13] noticed is the
[00:23:14] top players
[00:23:14] let's say top
[00:23:15] 25
[00:23:17] now they have
[00:23:18] now you can
[00:23:19] buy
[00:23:20] you can pay
[00:23:21] for
[00:23:21] a break but
[00:23:23] this is
[00:23:24] hypothetically
[00:23:25] the top 25
[00:23:25] that are ranked
[00:23:26] they're actually
[00:23:28] interviewing the
[00:23:28] colleges
[00:23:29] they have
[00:23:30] their choice
[00:23:30] they can
[00:23:31] go to each
[00:23:32] college
[00:23:32] and find
[00:23:33] out what
[00:23:33] the right
[00:23:34] fit is
[00:23:35] obviously
[00:23:35] you do
[00:23:36] want to
[00:23:36] find the
[00:23:36] right fit
[00:23:37] as far as
[00:23:38] colors but
[00:23:39] if you're not
[00:23:39] the top tier
[00:23:42] you're selling
[00:23:43] yourself
[00:23:44] so you help
[00:23:45] out with that
[00:23:46] you help
[00:23:47] selling
[00:23:47] themselves
[00:23:47] and even
[00:23:49] the top
[00:23:49] talented
[00:23:50] kids
[00:23:50] don't always
[00:23:51] get their
[00:23:51] choice
[00:23:53] they are
[00:23:54] more or
[00:23:55] less going
[00:23:55] to college
[00:23:56] to play
[00:23:56] softball
[00:23:57] so all
[00:23:58] of those
[00:23:58] other
[00:23:59] GPAs
[00:24:00] and test
[00:24:01] tours
[00:24:01] and all
[00:24:01] those other
[00:24:02] things
[00:24:02] become less
[00:24:03] and less
[00:24:03] important
[00:24:03] they really
[00:24:05] have to
[00:24:05] understand
[00:24:05] that they
[00:24:06] are going
[00:24:06] to be
[00:24:07] a full-time
[00:24:07] softball
[00:24:08] player
[00:24:08] in college
[00:24:09] and by the
[00:24:10] way you're
[00:24:10] going to get
[00:24:11] a college
[00:24:11] degree over
[00:24:11] here on the
[00:24:12] side
[00:24:12] I won't
[00:24:13] rat out
[00:24:13] one of the
[00:24:14] schools
[00:24:14] that my
[00:24:14] daughter
[00:24:14] visited
[00:24:15] it
[00:24:15] we're
[00:24:15] going to
[00:24:16] the big
[00:24:16] one with
[00:24:17] all the
[00:24:17] rings
[00:24:17] and they
[00:24:18] said no
[00:24:18] you're not
[00:24:19] going to
[00:24:19] study that
[00:24:20] at this
[00:24:20] university
[00:24:21] you won't
[00:24:21] be able
[00:24:22] and what
[00:24:23] they're trying
[00:24:23] to say
[00:24:24] is it's
[00:24:25] not that
[00:24:25] it's not
[00:24:25] important
[00:24:26] but we
[00:24:26] have certain
[00:24:27] hours that
[00:24:27] we can be
[00:24:28] our peer
[00:24:28] and the
[00:24:29] med school
[00:24:30] one is
[00:24:30] always an
[00:24:31] issue
[00:24:31] or nursing
[00:24:31] they all
[00:24:32] say oh
[00:24:33] no you
[00:24:33] can come
[00:24:33] here and
[00:24:34] yes we
[00:24:34] have that
[00:24:35] degree
[00:24:35] but the
[00:24:35] likelihood of
[00:24:36] you studying
[00:24:37] that degree
[00:24:37] is just
[00:24:38] really difficult
[00:24:39] and I've
[00:24:40] had podcasts
[00:24:41] with high
[00:24:42] academic
[00:24:43] people
[00:24:43] that in
[00:24:44] fact it
[00:24:45] was the
[00:24:46] academic
[00:24:46] advisors
[00:24:47] for St.
[00:24:48] John and
[00:24:48] Texas State
[00:24:49] that said
[00:24:49] you've got
[00:24:50] two years
[00:24:50] of general
[00:24:51] ed and
[00:24:52] you have
[00:24:52] to get
[00:24:53] to a
[00:24:53] university
[00:24:53] and almost
[00:24:54] all universities
[00:24:55] have a route
[00:24:56] to what you
[00:24:56] want
[00:24:57] so if you
[00:24:58] want nursing
[00:24:58] come in and
[00:24:59] get a
[00:24:59] biology degree
[00:25:00] come get in a
[00:25:01] general science
[00:25:01] degree and then
[00:25:02] go get a
[00:25:02] master's in
[00:25:03] nursing when
[00:25:04] you're done
[00:25:04] when you
[00:25:05] actually get
[00:25:05] to pick and
[00:25:06] dedicate yourself
[00:25:07] to that
[00:25:07] particular
[00:25:08] major
[00:25:08] everybody has
[00:25:09] different opinions
[00:25:10] about that
[00:25:10] and education
[00:25:12] is highly
[00:25:13] important to me
[00:25:13] when you look
[00:25:14] at my
[00:25:14] commitment
[00:25:14] I've got
[00:25:15] kids all
[00:25:16] over Ivy League
[00:25:16] I can't
[00:25:17] be any
[00:25:17] prouder about
[00:25:18] any opportunity
[00:25:19] to be there
[00:25:20] to get a
[00:25:20] degree from
[00:25:20] an Ivy League
[00:25:21] this sets you
[00:25:22] up for 40
[00:25:23] years
[00:25:23] it's different
[00:25:24] I think a lot
[00:25:24] of people come
[00:25:25] in with what
[00:25:26] I think the
[00:25:26] NCAA tells
[00:25:27] them to pick
[00:25:28] your major
[00:25:28] and pick the
[00:25:30] schools that
[00:25:30] match those
[00:25:31] majors
[00:25:31] and go to
[00:25:32] their camp
[00:25:32] and voila
[00:25:33] it's all so
[00:25:33] easy
[00:25:34] thank you
[00:25:35] everybody for
[00:25:35] listening to
[00:25:37] the first
[00:25:38] part with
[00:25:39] sharing
[00:25:39] Naudine
[00:25:41] and I hope
[00:25:42] you enjoy
[00:25:43] part two
[00:25:44] next week
[00:25:45] take care