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[00:00:00] The kids need to be doing something every day, I mean even in just 20 minutes so but then the other one is the parents who

[00:00:07] tell me that their 9 year old is embegging them to practice so they're not gonna push their kid to go out and I don't know about you guys

[00:00:16] There are some kids that are the 1% of kids that will beg their parents or the go out on their own but a lot of kids won't

[00:00:22] My parents had to make me go out and practice and I was telling them as long as they're not complaining while they're out

[00:00:27] practicing like of course when there's 100 degrees in July I wanted to sit on my couch after school

[00:00:32] in the hair condition I didn't want to go practice, my parents made me so when these parents are like my 9 year old is embegging me to practice

[00:00:38] I had to remember it's the mind of their kid of course they want to do other things but if you see potential in them

[00:00:45] you need to push them

[00:00:46] Hello and welcome to catching you a dad and daughter softball journey

[00:00:50] I'm Rusty, a dad who's been in the dugout and on the side

[00:00:54] And I'm Lacey the daughter who's journey through softball has been filled with incredible winds, tough losses

[00:00:59] and so many lessons both on and off the field

[00:01:02] For the past 16 years we've navigated the highs and lows of softball together

[00:01:06] from the local fields to national tournaments and everything in between

[00:01:10] from the challenges of recruitment during COVID to the mental and emotional rollercoaster that comes with being a student athlete

[00:01:16] we'll be sharing the perspectives of both apparent and athlete in first-hand experience of the impact of sports on mental health

[00:01:23] and the importance of support from the sidelines

[00:01:26] Welcome back everybody to catching you on your co-host Rusty him I'm with my daughter co-othery other co-host Lacey him Lacey Hyde

[00:01:36] Hi everyone and we have our first guest appearance coach Kate

[00:01:42] Coach Kate was Lacey's very first pitching coach

[00:01:48] I say hi Kate how are you? I'm good

[00:01:51] So Kate we're just again this podcast is about you know Lacey and myself as a father

[00:01:58] our journey through her softball career

[00:02:01] and this kind of tells us a little bit about yourself like maybe where you grew up

[00:02:06] You know what colleges or what high school do you do at 10? What colleges do you attend then

[00:02:10] you know what are you doing now as far as uh you know something what what you're doing now that's related to softball

[00:02:18] Okay, I'm Kate Gaskill or I'm Kate Tiffany now because I got married two years ago but um

[00:02:24] I played Marietta Valley girls softball drawing up

[00:02:28] And I think Lacey was there too right yeah yeah I heard right yeah and then I um

[00:02:35] High school I played for Marietta Valley for two years and then I transferred to Vista Marietta high school

[00:02:40] Which was fun and then

[00:02:43] I

[00:02:44] I don't know I've been on a lot of different travel well teams bapisters

[00:02:49] I know Kate Gordon Smithers every other questions um I went to

[00:02:55] University of Georgia

[00:02:57] Yeah, I was there a couple years and I transferred to Georgia state my last year and I ended up coming home

[00:03:02] But now I am coaching full-time and I think uh

[00:03:08] It was meant to be I love coaching so much. So this is like

[00:03:12] What I should have been doing from you know forever

[00:03:15] I could encode in college like they can now but you know

[00:03:18] I had to wait until I was out of college meant

[00:03:21] The best thing ever the best job I could ever have it

[00:03:24] Yeah, Lacey you get into that right you're starting to coach some some girls on me

[00:03:29] I think you might have some questions pretty regarding that

[00:03:32] Yeah, so you were at GSA right so it was Lacey

[00:03:37] You went to our rival school Marietta Valley

[00:03:41] Night act I coached my Mesa too. I forgot to mention that's right you were a coach at Mesa

[00:03:46] When you transferred to Vista did you play with the Romero sisters? No

[00:03:50] No they're younger. I'm old third that is the assistant coach

[00:03:54] Oh, yeah, you yeah

[00:03:56] But I love you those girls yes

[00:03:59] Those girls are obviously we know how great they are but I remember playing varsity softball

[00:04:05] And they were really young and their dad would have them come out and do fielding what that's where like what are these little kids

[00:04:10] Doing practicing with this but they were so good obviously

[00:04:14] They were good from a young age. It's crazy

[00:04:16] So I never really but I kind of like practice with them

[00:04:20] That's cool

[00:04:21] Yeah, so thanks for coming on I appreciate it

[00:04:24] Yeah, we're just gonna you know have just a just a random conversation about

[00:04:29] You know

[00:04:31] You know when the girls are young and how to treat them

[00:04:34] And you know, I think Lacey you have some questions regarding that and then I'll ask you some parent question right

[00:04:40] Um, you know because

[00:04:42] If you listen to some of the episodes. I was after you Kate um and when she started

[00:04:48] Yeah, she started like you know practicing a lot. I was not I was not a good father

[00:04:52] I was throwing the ball back as hard as I could to her and I was

[00:04:56] Moping and you know hit your spots lace, you know

[00:04:59] So I didn't do a very good job as far as a parent and until she came to be crying one day

[00:05:05] Um, then maybe you can touch upon the parent aspect lace whoa

[00:05:10] Uh

[00:05:12] I don't know. Would you have any memories of coach Kate? I know it's super you're super young. How old were you again?

[00:05:18] Uh

[00:05:21] Seven eight I think you pictures. I don't like yeah, there's

[00:05:26] There's like she sent me a video of me and like uh

[00:05:30] Socks with like

[00:05:32] fire on them from sweet heat

[00:05:34] and

[00:05:35] Um, like my untouchure my visor and my hair's down

[00:05:40] um

[00:05:41] But yeah, I mean I just remember pitching

[00:05:45] um

[00:05:46] sunglasses

[00:05:47] uh, we pitched in that really

[00:05:49] crappy bullpen at masha

[00:05:52] but yeah, I mean

[00:05:54] very very young so

[00:05:57] I just were remember working on mechanics a lot. That's pretty much the basis

[00:06:01] lacy you didn't know this but uh

[00:06:04] like you were one of her first clients other than

[00:06:08] autumn feeds

[00:06:10] Really

[00:06:12] Was it one lesson you said?

[00:06:14] Yeah, like I think it was like one lesson my mom knew her mom from work or something

[00:06:18] Right you know funny similar with lacy. I mean right? Isn't that how it happened?

[00:06:21] Yep, when you're

[00:06:23] yep

[00:06:24] Yeah, cuz I was teaching at mace alright at the thames

[00:06:27] you

[00:06:28] No

[00:06:29] Um, well, um, let me let me get started live so

[00:06:33] What your full-time coach now um, you didn't really necessarily have a like a business name what is it what is your

[00:06:41] What's the business name? What's it called? But

[00:06:44] 360 softwa. Yeah, so what did the file? What does that mean like what does that mean to you or what

[00:06:49] Why did you come over 360 softwa? So I came up with that with the

[00:06:54] To grow so the endgame goal is to have 360 everything available for these girls

[00:06:59] Like to have a family community where they can have hitting, pitching, fielding, mental game work

[00:07:06] I even I've brought in a nutritionist school tutoring like

[00:07:09] My dream is to have everything under one roof 360 everything

[00:07:14] So the girls can come hang out get work in you school work and you know, I want them to not want to leave

[00:07:19] I want them to

[00:07:20] softwa all the time you know right so that that was that's the plan. I'm slowly getting there

[00:07:27] Yeah, you just didn't you just put in like bolt ins and and like

[00:07:31] Man, that looked like a lot of work. Oh

[00:07:34] Well, yeah, I'm uh still working on it my father father and lads down there working on it right now

[00:07:39] Oh really lots of money and lots of time I

[00:07:42] I mean, I made big moves. I sold my first house to buy this land just for softwa for my business

[00:07:48] No, it's pretty crazy

[00:07:50] Yeah, I was looking at some of the pictures of my kind that that's a huge

[00:07:54] Back in just one half week years

[00:07:58] Is it still an area like very a metapheria? Um right off

[00:08:02] Got in but our star or bindi. I'm right in the middle between the free

[00:08:05] So

[00:08:07] I can't go too far. I've got too many girls around here

[00:08:10] That's right

[00:08:12] Um, so lace your you

[00:08:15] Coach now, right

[00:08:17] Your coach and the little girls

[00:08:19] What are the age ranges?

[00:08:23] What are the age ranges typically with you?

[00:08:25] Relays

[00:08:27] I think my youngest

[00:08:30] My youngest would be

[00:08:32] eight years old and then my

[00:08:35] my

[00:08:37] Oldest one is a junior in high school right now

[00:08:40] So I rage from eight to high school when my lessons so

[00:08:46] Then what's your you i think that you said you're around your super yarn to some college girl

[00:08:53] Don't you do some college girls? We have some college girls. Yeah, not very many

[00:08:58] I've got my ones that have been with me from the beginning are like juniors now

[00:09:01] So they'll be in college before we know it. Oh wow

[00:09:04] Yeah

[00:09:07] Uh, okay, laced you have any anything you want to ask uh your old your first very first pitching coach

[00:09:16] Yeah, I think my first one I said was um if you can remember what like what our lessons were like or what sort of developments I made

[00:09:25] Uh, like strengths or weaknesses, but I know it was a long time ago so

[00:09:31] Just like he has like a little

[00:09:33] A little like wrecked ball playing pitcher. Oh the long time, you know

[00:09:38] Um

[00:09:39] I knew that you were really good and you were really young and like I was you know

[00:09:43] I'd brag about you a lot

[00:09:44] I have like videos and pictures from like your wreckball games and stuff

[00:09:49] And um, I should remember like you know when I you coach so when you have a young girl

[00:09:54] And you're like this world can be a good pitcher

[00:09:57] So I mean, I know I'm a sickler for mechanics, so I'm sure

[00:10:00] We were probably focusing on that the most and then I remember it was funny

[00:10:06] I watched one of your other shows and you talked about the change up

[00:10:09] And how I was like obsessed with that and I was like oh that hasn't changed

[00:10:12] Like yeah, one of my students like oh lazy on her podcast

[00:10:16] I was happy to change up even back then

[00:10:18] But it's true even in college. It's important. So yeah, I guess

[00:10:22] I just remember you stood out for sure

[00:10:24] And I'm always bummed when a young girl like is so good and then of course

[00:10:28] I wasn't really full-time coaching then and you guys move on and like oh

[00:10:32] They're gonna be so good. I want them to be like my my student forever

[00:10:37] Well, people have to grow

[00:10:39] Yeah, my guess I kind of remember that I mean definitely remember the bullpen

[00:10:44] That was why I coached there because I could use I mean

[00:10:48] I love coaching there, but I like to use our facilities

[00:10:52] You know even though it wasn't the best it was better than going to Calokes

[00:10:55] you know

[00:10:56] Well, yeah, 13 years ago. Okay. We were not very good

[00:11:03] You can tell you can tell when a girl's up

[00:11:06] Yeah, well let no like a lazy was pretty good

[00:11:08] But the high school team was absolutely horrible

[00:11:12] We made not we made not a one-game. I'm pretty sure that

[00:11:16] We didn't win again

[00:11:18] Ash lacy because you said one year ago or you have brills that are up to like junior and in high school

[00:11:23] That was hard for me coach and because we were so close in age

[00:11:27] I was wondering if it you know for you is that

[00:11:31] I mean you guys are really close in age a junior and high school and a senior in your senior, right?

[00:11:36] Yeah

[00:11:39] Oh, you're a junior

[00:11:41] yeah

[00:11:43] It's not

[00:11:44] It's not hard

[00:11:47] It's weird because my brother is a senior in high school

[00:11:51] so

[00:11:52] I see them as like

[00:11:54] kind of like little siblings

[00:11:57] That makes sense

[00:11:59] Yeah, like the junior in high school. She's younger than my little brother

[00:12:03] So like I still see them as like my student and my

[00:12:07] And my lesson and like

[00:12:09] someone that or I know that they look up to me in a sort of way

[00:12:14] Um, and I think the closest and age kind of helps a little bit like for like relatableness

[00:12:20] um and like

[00:12:22] Developing like a good relationship when like kind of fun and venturing back and forth

[00:12:27] talking about high school and like um, I mean they could even come to my game still

[00:12:32] If they wanted to so I've had some girls come to my games

[00:12:36] um, so I really just like having that close relationship with them

[00:12:40] It's so crazy but with like the eight-year-olds and hearing them when they were born is just

[00:12:44] Out of that I don't know

[00:12:46] I don't like it you feel like that well

[00:12:52] Yeah, yeah, I think it was for me because I'm coaching a team

[00:12:56] That was

[00:12:57] Different and one-on-one lessons as far as the age difference that was hard for me

[00:13:03] Now obviously I'm old. I feel like I hit a certain age where like

[00:13:06] Some of these girls it's different but good. I'm glad you guys. I mean that venting can relate

[00:13:13] Yeah, you you're you're you're just stuck with lessons right you never really coach like

[00:13:18] It's frable ball teams right or did you try to coach any travel ball teams and then after after high school

[00:13:24] I always said I will never coach another team. I did three years at me

[00:13:28] So I'm sorry those teenagers and the parents it was so hard for me

[00:13:32] But I have this girl that's 10 and when she was five or six she started with me

[00:13:37] And I promised her when she went to travel ball. I would coach her

[00:13:40] Okay, but I didn't think she was gonna know a travel on nine years old so

[00:13:45] But I have they give me of our time all the time

[00:13:48] I just don't think I can do another team. It was so hard

[00:13:51] Yeah speaking of parents right because you know, again our journey

[00:13:55] Just the podcast like I said earlier is my journey as well as far as a parent and how

[00:14:02] I mean when lacy cried at the kitchen table because I was not acting appropriate right and she finally said dad

[00:14:09] That's this is enough. Can you

[00:14:12] touch upon

[00:14:13] Some we can I call the pet peeves earlier but what are some here?

[00:14:19] If we want to use today's terms your ex of parents and I don't want you

[00:14:23] I don't want this to be like a you know bash parents, you know

[00:14:25] I will not I'm saying no I go for it but

[00:14:29] But what are some like it should like maybe sort of advice for

[00:14:33] someone who like me who's

[00:14:35] not you know

[00:14:37] You know lacy's not hit her spots on like moping and then but I really bad body language where I'm

[00:14:43] I roll back to her because you know if her change up you know wasn't you know

[00:14:47] She didn't hit her change up so I just roll back to her instead of throwing back to her

[00:14:51] What are some of your ex or some of you some advice?

[00:14:54] So I can think of it amongst

[00:14:57] Let's see back to remember them. So

[00:15:00] one is

[00:15:01] Like I had mentioned like the magic lesson which I'm sure lacy can really too coaching

[00:15:07] Some of these parents will bring their kids to like one lesson a week and their kid won't practice

[00:15:11] And they're like why is my kid not advancing?

[00:15:14] Obviously you're not doing your job there. I would be charging a lot more if there was magic lesson or the parents that bring them like

[00:15:20] In wreck ball to bring them just one season starts and they'll try to cram and the kid hasn't done anything in months

[00:15:26] um, but then

[00:15:29] That's one of mine

[00:15:30] Then there's another one

[00:15:31] The kids need to be doing something every day. I mean even of his 20 minutes so but then the other one is the parents who

[00:15:39] Tell me that their nine-year-old is embegging them to practice

[00:15:43] So they're not gonna push their kid to go out and I don't know about you guys

[00:15:47] There are some kids that are

[00:15:50] The one percent of kids that will beg their parents or the go on their own

[00:15:53] But a lot of kids won't in my parents had to make me go on practice

[00:15:56] And I was telling them as long as they're not complaining while they're out practicing like of course

[00:16:00] When there's a hundred degrees in July

[00:16:01] I wanted to sit on my couch after school in the hair condition

[00:16:04] I had want to go practice but my parents made me so when these parents are like my nine-year-old is embegging me to practice

[00:16:10] I try to remember like remind them their kid, you know

[00:16:13] Of course they want to do other things

[00:16:15] But if you see potential in them

[00:16:17] You need to push them

[00:16:18] So they're like one extreme or the other and then as Mars like how you said how you kind of acted

[00:16:24] I have some parents that

[00:16:26] My mom was super tough

[00:16:28] but it breaks my heart when I see like um

[00:16:31] some kids

[00:16:33] Gared to fail because their parents are so tough and you know as a coach lazy like sometimes like

[00:16:39] I don't care where the ball goes

[00:16:40] Just throw it like I'm working on something mechanically and the ball might hit the roof of the cage

[00:16:44] I don't care

[00:16:45] But they'll look at their parents like they're not allowed to do that and I have to be like you got to just let them

[00:16:50] fail

[00:16:51] But I'm worried that some of those kids are going to be the ones that don't continue playing and they're so talented

[00:16:57] And I wish some parents would listen to me when I say like just that cough a little bit

[00:17:02] but there's like one end of this spectrum to the other like

[00:17:05] There's two extremes to some of these parents, but I think like you

[00:17:09] I mean they all figure it out as I go

[00:17:11] But take your kids out to practice

[00:17:14] Uh, if you see potential push them and let them fail

[00:17:17] Those would be like my biggest my advice for my ex

[00:17:21] Yeah, so yeah

[00:17:22] It was important that she opened up right she went to mom first and said hey, you know dad is

[00:17:28] Oh, I can't handle this right

[00:17:31] You know because she wants to she she's competitive. I mean

[00:17:34] She's more competitive than me. She's like her mom. She's competitive

[00:17:37] And so she would always ask me to go out and again, that's why we call it catching you podcast because I would always catch her

[00:17:43] um, but then there was this time where she's like this suck

[00:17:48] I don't want to do this because he's

[00:17:50] You know she was thrown over the fence right now that I

[00:17:53] Have dropped my head and I walked real slow and

[00:17:56] You know, and she's like I'm not doing an imperfection

[00:17:59] After I laid yeah, I mean anything else it was no good

[00:18:06] Because yeah, I take a remember like going out and asking and we'd be like well on

[00:18:13] He had work or he got live back late brown um, I mean at times you were still coaching basketball

[00:18:19] So

[00:18:21] You had late practice and I just be waiting at home like just with my glove in the living room and

[00:18:27] I think I'm like kind of how you said um

[00:18:30] Coach Kate that like they want to be they need to be begging

[00:18:34] To go out him

[00:18:35] The swarm and then I asked some of my lessons like after they come to my lesson

[00:18:39] And it's not going very well and they're getting all confused. Why am I doing so bad?

[00:18:44] And then I'm like well did you pitch during the week and then they say well

[00:18:48] I did like last week maybe one time with my my dad

[00:18:53] And I was like okay

[00:18:55] So and then I asked like do you want to continue to get better at pitching and continue

[00:19:01] working hard and

[00:19:03] Being like I even asked some of like kind of in the middle like 12-year-old sports teams

[00:19:09] Uh, I do you want to play in college?

[00:19:12] And then they say yes, I want I want to play in college and like I love Stanford

[00:19:15] I love all these schools. I'm like well, you're gonna have to go that more than once a week

[00:19:20] You're going to have to do it. It's like

[00:19:23] Probably a work requirement um, so yeah, just bring feedback to

[00:19:27] begging my dad to go

[00:19:29] Do spin that least

[00:19:33] I always help girls like you get out what you put in you know if if you don't

[00:19:37] I guess more fun to be successful in a game

[00:19:40] Thank filling you get out when you put in it's not like

[00:19:44] It's not rocket science. They try to tell them, you know really not

[00:19:47] Yeah

[00:19:50] Right um, yeah, there was uh, I think a couple episodes of the code that um

[00:19:56] I talked about

[00:19:58] A coach was saying that the nine-year-old you know, I think you may have come there. I don't

[00:20:03] Coach Kate, you know, the nine-year-old was caught crying after practice because she didn't know who to listen to and

[00:20:09] Can you like maybe describe that because I'm sure she's not the only one I'm sure she you know when they start getting pitching coaches

[00:20:16] It didn't happen with us because uh

[00:20:19] You know our coach was cool. He's like okay, what are you guys working on and he would always make fun of us because

[00:20:24] Lacey he thought he thought lacy had too many

[00:20:28] too many

[00:20:29] Grabs or too many pitches. What did he say you used to say coach Chris?

[00:20:34] He's like, what is this grit number 72 or something like that?

[00:20:40] Yeah, cuz we're going hey, we know we have this new grip from the curve ball and he's like he's like just

[00:20:45] Distraught the curve ball like he

[00:20:48] Oh

[00:20:50] What about that nine-year-old you know because she again, she's not doing what about that nine-year-old that's deflected and you know cuz

[00:20:57] Good girls shouldn't be crying after practice. You know because we have to choose

[00:21:02] Like if their coach is telling them one thing and their pitching coach. So yeah, I'm like

[00:21:07] That's hard because I mean these kids just want to please their coaches and their parents and you know

[00:21:13] To me, I'm always like that's a red flag from a coach my biggest thing is if you're paying for any type of lesson

[00:21:21] Your parents are working hard and paying and you're working hard practicing

[00:21:25] Then your coach should be in communication with your pitching or hitting or whatever coach

[00:21:31] And get on the same page. So we're saying the same things so we're not confusing the kids but

[00:21:36] It's hard. I told my kids to like kind of smile and nod yeah coach

[00:21:41] And then know what I've told them and do what I've told them but that's hard for a nine-year-old like

[00:21:47] You know, that's a difficult situation my I always tell the parents talk to the coach

[00:21:52] And some are more approachable than others and I'm like I tell them

[00:21:56] Uh, you know given my information getting contact or I'll do it

[00:22:00] But I'll tell my girls if they're coaches telling them something

[00:22:04] That they know they're not supposed to do that we don't work on I shall blame me

[00:22:08] I say tell them that you are in so much trouble and I made you run for 30 minutes to do as I put all the blame on me

[00:22:14] That's okay. Like I mean, it's so hard for these kids. They just want to do well, you know

[00:22:20] Yeah, no, and then I know I think lacy had some that you wanted to ask about

[00:22:26] Maybe kind of we can segue into that like keep it up fun

[00:22:30] Right? I think yeah again

[00:22:33] Not ever gonna go D1 right not ever you know because he

[00:22:37] K. I'm sure coach Kate in the in the 13 years

[00:22:40] You had a lot of girls not play anymore. You've had a lot of girls

[00:22:44] Fall out of love of it because of one reason for the other maybe it could have been you know harsh parents or could have been that coach

[00:22:50] Um, I don't know lace what you asked me so you kind of shared what you wanted to ask about that

[00:22:58] Yeah, I said um like for cuz you work with a lot of young girls

[00:23:02] um like how do

[00:23:04] How do you as a coach keep it simple and fun without putting too much pressure on them

[00:23:11] But like also pushing them to be better

[00:23:14] Hmm like in lessons

[00:23:16] I can tell I just try to do some kind of uh

[00:23:21] Challenging game or like, you know the little one all added running because I think running's fun for some reason when they're young

[00:23:28] That's I tried to remind him that it's you know to laugh

[00:23:31] I'll tell him a joke and have fun or I'll have them tell me a joke like it's supposed to be a good time

[00:23:36] I mean, shouldn't be feel like a job especially

[00:23:39] I don't think it should ever. I know when we get to college like my mom always said it

[00:23:42] It's a job they're paying for your college. It's a job

[00:23:45] But I mean come on

[00:23:47] Works more fun when you're having fun, you know

[00:23:50] So I just try to keep it entertaining because I can tell when some of the kids are overthinking or

[00:23:56] Just over it so then we'll just do like pitch and france or the fast five and they think that's a blast

[00:24:01] Even though it's a lot of hard work

[00:24:03] But that's that's pretty much my go-to plan or sometimes I was having my stereo. I'll be like

[00:24:08] All these kids love Taylor Swift

[00:24:10] I'm not a Swiftie, but um

[00:24:12] I'll play a little Swift for them and then they'll start singing and dancing and it's all good

[00:24:16] They kind of forget and just have a good time

[00:24:19] Uh, so

[00:24:21] I'm sure most of the dads

[00:24:23] I'm sure that are some moms out there caught you know

[00:24:25] I think and we stopped catching when you were 10 and lace bent

[00:24:28] You know, so you get hit than the eight couple times but um

[00:24:33] You know because I described you know my body language when she missed us by I would even have bad bad body language

[00:24:40] You know during her lessons

[00:24:41] You know, I'd be like you know shake them ahead and and do stuff like that. Do you have like hard set rules and parents like or

[00:24:51] I wish I did

[00:24:53] But I try it's hard because you know at the same time I'm still running a business but

[00:24:59] Right like the really hard situation. I try to have talks with parents

[00:25:03] but

[00:25:04] It's usually the

[00:25:05] dads the moms like my mom with tough months to meet us

[00:25:08] But it's usually the dad and the girls never want to disappoint their

[00:25:11] They're dad and I'll like mention things and I always get the yeah

[00:25:15] Yeah, yeah, you know

[00:25:16] And then the next lesson they're doing the same thing again and I just see their kid

[00:25:20] Like holding in tears

[00:25:22] And I I feel like a lot of times it goes in one year out the other

[00:25:25] I'm gonna have I want to get more

[00:25:27] Strict with that, but I guess that I'm it's a fine line, you know

[00:25:33] Yeah, it's hard to find catchers right that are just willing to catch bullpen right they

[00:25:37] Typically catchers just want to catch games, you know

[00:25:40] They're not big fans of catching bullpenes

[00:25:43] and I do sometimes I have catchers come but some of these parents like

[00:25:49] It's interesting. They like don't want anyone else to catch their kids

[00:25:52] Because they want to give their kid the luck, you know

[00:25:55] This right one a lot of from the parents for sure

[00:25:59] Yeah, I mean to that's part of the reason why we're doing this right is

[00:26:03] We want the we want the we want more girls to enjoy the game and not fall out of love of it right and

[00:26:11] You know, you said there's a fine line. All right, and you know, what is that line? We have it's pretty great

[00:26:17] We don't know

[00:26:19] Well, um, so yeah, pretty cool stuff

[00:26:23] I know you got to get going here

[00:26:25] We got about you have lessons right you have your full-time

[00:26:29] Business going on you got to get you got to get going hearing you prepared

[00:26:33] um if somebody

[00:26:36] um

[00:26:38] That's listening

[00:26:39] wants to reach out to you and maybe ask you a question maybe personally

[00:26:44] Um, how could what's the best way to reach out to you and then I have a couple questions at the end here

[00:26:51] boy, so just um

[00:26:55] Probably Instagram DM it's 360 softball

[00:27:00] But as you spell out the three and then it's the number 60 sometimes we'll get confused

[00:27:04] Right. It's th th re e

[00:27:07] Yeah, and then

[00:27:09] Well also 360 softball.com I have like a contact forum they can send me anything on there

[00:27:15] And it'll go shoot straight to my email

[00:27:18] But um, yeah, I mean Instagram. I'm on there the most and then

[00:27:22] The website email probably second all my information is on their phone number and everything too

[00:27:28] Right okay

[00:27:30] And then I asked you

[00:27:32] Kind of off camera

[00:27:34] And I I really appreciated this one because not many people would say

[00:27:39] What you said and I asked you who is the most influential person in your life

[00:27:44] And how did they impact you so can you tell her

[00:27:47] Let's maybe end on that because I think that's pretty cool it

[00:27:51] What you said other

[00:27:53] I said my grandpa right

[00:27:56] My grandpa, so um he's not around anymore but he

[00:28:01] So he grew up playing men's fast bitch him and he was a catcher him and his bitch were in like the whole thing for men's fast bitch

[00:28:07] My hope you my mom played softball so everyone was in it

[00:28:10] But I was actually a catcher and a third baseman

[00:28:13] And we were messing around they had land at San Diego and we're playing and you know like every kid

[00:28:17] Hitch the ball and my grandpa's like, jeal he's like you're you're gonna be a pitcher

[00:28:22] We're not doing this anymore. I apparently threw really fast and

[00:28:26] So he like completely

[00:28:28] Anged I'm not even sure

[00:28:31] I mean it was pretty good, but I wasn't like as good as I got with pitching

[00:28:34] So I don't think I'd be where I am today if he didn't decide I was gonna be a pitcher when I was actually not till 12 years old is when I started

[00:28:42] Oh, wow really

[00:28:44] Yeah, so I was a catcher third baseman until I was 12 and then things moved really fast

[00:28:49] I met no Wendy's dad like shortly after and jumped into travel wall and

[00:28:54] But it was all because of my grandpa and he used to just take me out and use to take me to the VFW

[00:29:00] And we'd go to the fields over there and and pay it

[00:29:04] He went to all of my games

[00:29:06] He like randomly started calling me like he's like can your nickname be right query passaways

[00:29:11] And I was 16 around there and he's like can you can I call you peaches and I'm like that's really weird

[00:29:16] And within six months, I got a full ride to Georgia and it was like Georgia peach. Oh my gosh

[00:29:21] Really weird things but I would definitely not be where I am now if it wasn't for

[00:29:27] Rampland the backyard yeah, that's awesome. What what's his name?

[00:29:32] Uh

[00:29:33] Dig Jones the richard Jones Richard Jones. Yeah, what what was your

[00:29:38] What was your did you call papa what'd you call him? It's grandpa

[00:29:42] Yeah, my only grandparents around here my other ones were in southern Illinois. So you have to do

[00:29:48] Yeah

[00:29:50] Awesome and then the last thing is what I asked you about because we

[00:29:54] Lace and I in our family we have family core values right

[00:29:59] So I kind of ask you a little bit maybe like

[00:30:02] Character trades, you know someone that you

[00:30:05] You're looking at somebody and you're like okay

[00:30:07] That's that's you know

[00:30:09] So what kind of character trades or kind of core value? Are you looking for people?

[00:30:14] Uh definitely honesty

[00:30:16] That's huge and hardworking

[00:30:19] characteristics. I mean that's

[00:30:21] In not just soft one like being a herd worker and beddicated what you love and

[00:30:25] Um those are probably some of the I don't remember what else I answered

[00:30:30] Don't you think that can just see hardworking and honesty right

[00:30:33] And I think

[00:30:34] 贪ancy is huge. That's

[00:30:37] Consistency is a big one and anything

[00:30:40] Yep

[00:30:41] Well good stuff. I appreciate coach Kate. Thank you for coming on being our first guest. If this is Austin

[00:30:47] um to our catching you podcast

[00:30:51] Um also so they we got your info if people want to reach out to you

[00:30:56] I appreciate your time and you gotta get out of here

[00:30:59] uh Lace thanks for hopping on

[00:31:02] Lace. I love you coach Kate. I love you too. I love I love that you are her first ever pitching coach

[00:31:09] I'll look right I brag about it though

[00:31:12] Hopefully they maybe catch a good nugget or two out of it

[00:31:15] Yes take care guys

[00:31:18] Thank you

[00:31:21] You